Episode 100: KP’s BlackBox
Welcome to KP's BlackBox! In this episode, Kenny and Zach introduce KP's BlackBox. During the show, they discuss the vision of the show and the heart behind the scenes.
Transcription
Kenny : Welcome to KP's BlackBox. This is our initial launch episode. I've got my trusty left hand. Not left hand, man are you left-handed?
Zach : Nope.
Kenny : Yeah, so I don't know where that came from it's my old man brain working. Uh, this is—-
Zach : Sleepy Joe.
Kenny : Yeah sleepy, sleeping Joe. This is not a show about politics but Zach just made it about politics. This is my trusty audio technician, Zach Stein, usually he'll be behind the camera. Today, I had him out so it wouldn't be so awkward for me to just talk to the camera without someone being there so Zach thanks for being on my show today.
Zach : You’re welcome.
Kenny : This wouldn't happen without Zach. And then those guys can you move that camera to show those guys back there?
Zach : I’m getting a ‘No’.
Kenny : Probably not? okay.
Zach : From my peer.
Kenny : Just take my word for it. There's some other people behind the camera over here, Mr Ian Miller also
Zach : Maybe I could hold a mirror hold.
Kenny : Yeah let's do that next time. Also, Ian seconds as my son-in-law and then my right-hand man in my financial business who helps keep me on track, Mr. Noah Baker, who's over there you can't see him but trust me they're back there doing Zach’s job which most the time in our financial firm everyone's doing Zach’s job.
Zach : Hmm.
Kenny : yeah hmm. So..
Zach : That’s how I like it.
Kenny : Yeah, everybody doing your work for you, right?
Zach : That's right!
Kenny : Okay. But usually one of the things that we had talked about doing when we start—started out, our thought of the podcast and what we'd be doing and kind of our theme. I’m a prior marine and I'll tell you more about that story one day. Zach, don't ask me questions about that today, we don't have time.
Kenny : One of the things I said we wanted to do was pay tribute to our men and women in uniform. Especially our military. It's through the lineage of my family we have Air Force Marines, semper fi, the Army, the Navy, the Coast Guard. My oldest son is a coastie. My youngest son is serving in the Army now.
Zach : I’m in the Army of God.
Kenny : Zach's in the Army of God and I'm there with him. He's a lieutenant, I'm a general. So, anyways one of the things we like to do is toast our military at the beginning of our podcast and so for all our troops, sailors, marines, puddle jumpers aka coasties, just kidding, and our airmen. Toast. Cheers.
Zach : No, that's too far.
Kenny : It’s too far. We got to figure out a way to clink glasses here. This is going to be the worst opening episode ever right?
Zach : No it’s radical transparency.
Kenny : Radical transparency. Radical truth. We’ll talk about that later. But a toast to our military in all seriousness.
Zach : I say we go for it. We go for the clink.
Kenny : Alright come on. There we go. *clink* Ian you got that?
Ian : Got it.
Kenny : Awesome so down the hatches Zach.
Zach : Cheers.
Kenny : Blue label. Delicious!
Zach : Yeah, that's a word.
Kenny : Johnny Walker. Blue label. Get on the train. Help out our military. Give back because those guys drink a lot. No seriously.
Zach : You look like you're tearing up a little bit.
Kenny : Oh God, yeah man, that was rough.
Zach : Let me expose you.
Kenny : But I love—thank you.
Zach : Yep.
Kenny : How was it for you?
Zach : Uh, good.
Kenny: Yeah?
Kenny : Folks, I promise our podcasts are much better than this. The guests are much more exciting. The host does a much better job than what I'm doing right now, on my initial podcast. So, stick with us it will get better. I promise. Yeah we'll have some dj horn, we'll have a little bit of some of that (Cricket noise) going on. Which is kind of like Zach's love life right now.
Zach : You got any Mike Tyson buttons? I'ma tee that one up for you.
Kenny : I might just have a Mike Tyson button. Recording of Mike Tyson : “It might, it would happen to any fighter because at this particular point I was throwing, what can I say, hydrogen bombs.”
Kenny : Hydrogen bombs.
Zach : *imitating Mike Tyson* Hydrogen bombs.
Kenny : Mike, that was not me poking fun of your lisp.
Zach : Yeah, we're gonna have to edit that out because he's he's fighting again now.
Kenny : At 50 years old.
Zach : Yeah.
Kenny : Which is pretty amazing.
Zach : Yeah and uh, you know I regret my statement Mike. Yeah. I take it back.
Kenny : OnAir apology to Mr Mike Tyson.
Zach : I regret my statement.
Kenny : He is in so much trouble. So, in all seriousness, we just went through about four minutes of nonsense. That's how fast you can burn time on a podcast and just have some commentary about nothing, absolutely nothing, and people will listen to it. Hopefully. But our podcasts in all seriousness, Zach, we want to talk to people about all things oxygen and money. And everything in between.
Zach : Which is a lot.
Kenny : It is. It covers a lot. You know my expertise is that as a financial professional advisor. You know, working with my clients over the years in the financial services industry, I've had the amazing opportunity to meet people from all walks of life. From grammy-winning music producers and engineers, to uber wealthy business people, to in-between just the ordinary pre-retiree, retiree business owner. And what I've found is that these people are so much alike, even though we're all different. We come from different walks of life. These people have a lot of things in common. The two most important things they have in common. What do you think that is?
Zach : Money and oxygen.
Kenny : Money and oxygen. What I've found is that—
Zach : Did I get it?
Kenny : Yeah. You can't live without either one of those. What we want to do is dive deep in KP's BlackBox and find out from these ordinary people, who have done extraordinary things, what makes them tick?
Zach : Yeah.
Kenny : What makes them want to breathe another breath of oxygen each day? What makes them drive? Not necessarily for the the value of money or what money, uh, looks like in their bank account but what it really can do for them in their life's work. You know, I’m going to be really transparent here. We’ve shot a lot of these episodes already.
Zach : Yep.
Kenny : In advance. And what's really cool is being able to have these conversations with folks. Man, I really gained some massive insight from some of our guests and you know, why don't you tell us a little bit about some of the folks we're going to be talking to?
Zach : Yeah. So, some of the episodes we've recorded already. I won't name drop, yet, but we've interviewed or conversed with a nutritionist, with an ancient fossil from the the insurance industry.
Kenny : He will love that you called him a fossil. Because he really is.
Zach : We’ve talked to a self-made guy, an entrepreneur, who has close to 1500 employees at this point. You know he's pretty far up the financial food chain, so to say.
Kenny : He was a naval academy graduate.
Zach : Yeah, yeah uh.
Kenny : Turned entrepreneur.
Zach : Yeah, lots of wonderful accolades, I think is the word.
Kenny : That guy thought he was going to be in the music business.
Zach : Yeah.
Kenny : And that's really where he thought he was going to have his career. After his naval career, his opportunity with what the naval academy brought for him.
Zach : Yeah and we've gotten the chance to talk with people in the music industry; producers.
Kenny : Yeah.
Zach : Uhm but yeah. I think that's a great segue. Who are the people that you would like to have on the show, Kenny?
Kenny : So, in the future you know we're going to have um ..
Zach : What defines that person?
Kenny : Yeah, I think we want to have conversations with entrepreneurs, and you know, you've maybe heard the word out there ‘serial entrepreneurs’ those people who just have this driving passion to have change and innovation.
Zach : To sell cereal.
Kenny : Huh—Whats that?
Zach : To sell cereal.
Kenny : Yeah, Yeah. Captain Crunch, Fruit Loops,
Zach : Cereal entrepreneur.
Kenny : Yeah, right.
Zach : Ba-dum-tss, we need a ‘ba-dum-tss’ button. Zach get on that.
Kenny : I don't know what that button is. It’s gone now. Oh, you got a hand clap.
Zach : Thank you.
Kenny : That was great Zach.
Zach : I'm here all night. Never again.
Kenny : So, or if it was my side of the room. Yeah, you get a little weak boo from the audience there.
Zach : You know I actually recorded those.
Kenny : Doing the boos?
Zach : No, I’m kidding.
Kenny : Our audience it's going to be a very diverse group of people. We're going to find that the people that we interview will have some pretty unique stories. One that I'm really looking forward to sharing with everyone, is a client of mine whose father served with the U.S. Navy and flew fighter jets off the Forrestal during the Vietnam war and this gentleman was actually on the Forrestal when it caught fire.
Zach : Is that a ship?
Kenny : It's a ship. It's an aircraft carrier. Yeah thanks Zach, yeah. It is an aircraft carrier.
Zach : To everyone watching I’m 13 years old.
Kenny : Yeah, not far from it.
Zach : Uh I mean uh, twenty-one.
Kenny : What did you say. What did you say Ian?
Ian : He's not 13. He's drinking.
Zach : Yeah, they carded me.
Kenny : Johnny Walker. He really is 21.
Zach : I showed them my library card.
Kenny : Thanks. That is going to get us in so much trouble. But you know, there's some stories where this gentleman. I had an opportunity about three years ago, in his home, in Kentucky to sit down and have a conversation with him. About what it was like being on that that aircraft carrier that day when a massive explosion took place. A lot of men lost their lives and it would it made world news at that time. At a period in time where it wasn't really popular to be a service member in the military. But, you know, these young men were willing to serve. They were willing to go out and carry out the orders of our nation's leaders even though they may have not agreed with everything that was happening then.
Zach : Yep.
Kenny : They had this honor, respect, and call of duty to follow through on their nation’s, uhm, obligations.
Zach : Yeah.
Kenny : And uh, it's a—I don't want to give it away today, but, it was a tear-jerker for me just sitting in his living room. Showing me the pictures inside of time magazine and then having a person relive for you the emotion of that day. It’s an amazing story that I want to capture on film for his grandchildren. So, that's some of the things we want to do, is we want to just have the opportunity to deep dive some of these stories and go kind of behind the scenes of not only things about finance but things that make people tick. What makes people do the things they do in their life? What makes them choose the journey or the path that they're on?
Zach : Yeah even to um you know if I were to answer the question myself. I think that there are lots of interest groups and subsequently there are lots of podcasts focused on interest groups. There’s finance podcasts. There's crime solving podcasts. There's music podcasts and people love these things. But, I think the principle is true that the thing that makes life meaningful and makes interest groups meaningful, makes hobbies meaningful is people.
Kenny : Yeah.
Zach : And while we may not be an interest based podcast. Where we are not focusing on just finance. We are not focusing on just music, just the entertainment industry, we are focusing on people.
Kenny : Yeah.
Zach : Which I think is the beautiful thing. Because people are what bring meaning to those things. So, I think that you encapsulated it perfectly in the story you just told.
Kenny : Well that's the cool thing about, you know, for me being in the financial services industry for almost 27 years now. What's kept me in that industry is not necessarily the love of finance but it's the love of people. Being able to just have that opportunity to share with people my expertise and how I can help them move from where they are to where they want to be in their financial realm. But, I also get the opportunity to hear their stories and hear how their money decisions helps drive the passions that they have in their life's work and whatever that may be.
Zach : That shows.
Kenny : Yeah, I appreciate that. And you know you're part of that too. You know you have a passion for music and one of my things that I want to do with all of my employees is champion the desires of a person’s heart.
Zach : Yeah.
Kenny : And help them achieve what it is they really want to achieve and you know that's one of the things I heard about google years ago. Is that Google, and you can fact-check me on this and if I'm wrong I will re-state it.
Zach : Oh, I will.
Kenny : I’m sure you will Zach. But I think google, if I read this right, gives back about 20 percent of their employees time for them to be able to research on something that they're passionate about. So, they give them free day basically if you have a five day work week they're saying ‘hey one day a week you can take a personal day to to work on your passion. To work on something that maybe could give back to the greater cause of the world that we live in.
Zach : Wow.
Kenny : So, Google if that's not right—I‘m sure you will shut me down and not allow me to put that out there but that’s Google.
Zach : Agh, no one's listening on Google Play.
Kenny : Right, you know nobody fact checks anymore anyways.
Zach : Oh good. Hey, go get me an application for Google.
Kenny : Every industry accept music. They won't let you do the music business.
Zach : Ow.
Kenny : But on that front, we're going to have an opportunity to hear from Zach and one of my buddies that goes back 20 years. There's a podcast we shot a week or so ago with a buddy of mine from the music industry. Taking kind of the the old dog in the game and then the new cat and you know finding a way to find what are those common goals, those common themes, and then we actually found out during this interview that you're going to be able to maybe collab on a song or two. And who knows where that'll go.
Zach : Yeah. We're already seeing the, the fruit of the podcast, so to say.
Kenny : Yes. And that’s really cool. So, really understanding in this concept in the world that we live in is from a money principle, from a values point of view, that when a person plants a seed most of us want to jump right to the harvest and jump right to, you know, we plant the seed let's immediately get a harvest from it. Where I want to spend some time in our podcast is that cultivation process. You know, in farming you have to seed then you have to cultivate that soil in order to get a fruitful harvest.
Zach : Yeah.
Kenny : And so the podcast hopefully will show folks the cultivation process. What did it take from the seed of the idea. The seed of the first deposit. The seed of the commitment of signing a contract to join our nation's military. Which is another part of folks that we're going to talk to. Where our podcast is shot from, we're in the community of Virginia Beach, Virginia. And in this community we have a lot of people in the naval special warfare community, who serve in that world. So, I'm going to have a few guests, that after they've served, be able to come back and share some of their stories with us.
Zach : So, this theme you're talking about of sowing seed, preparing soil, reaping a harvest, it reminded me. Tell me about, because I actually don't think i've ever heard the story take me back to the day Kenny Porter was sitting on his couch or wherever you were and you thought to yourself I want to make black box publishing a thing. Because I think what most people don't understand is this concept of black box is actually a really grandiose vision
Kenny : Yeah.
Zach : That is a lot bigger than just a podcast.
Kenny : Yeah.
Zach : And right now we’re actually sowing the seed. You know recording this pilot episode of a podcast. We were sowing the seed for what BlackBox.
Kenny : People were like “oh my god this is rocky soil.”
Zach : So can you tell that story briefly?
Kenny : Yeah, so, how brief would you like it?
Zach : It’s your podcast.
Kenny : We've got, yeah, we've got 13 minutes so. So, it really starts back to around 2012. I'd written a book called The Billionaire Within and that book came from some trials and tribulations that really allowed me and my my own personal life to be able to stop and be introspective about what had happened in the first 15 years of my professional career. Some decisions that I had made back then really led me to this point of 2012 where I'm like, well I've for the first time had a taste of failure. And failure in a way that it was probably one of the most defining moments in my life, I would say. Other than my time in the marine corps which I'll talk about that one day. Yeah but you know from this, um, from this moment of experiencing—in some people's eyes it would be catastrophic failure. You know, I had this thing that happened in my life. Lost a business. It would be defined as losing everything. And uh, you know from that—having really nothing to work from other than supportive family. Support of my wife and supportive children who love me dearly. Realizing that you know it was really an audacious statement to say that I lost everything when I'd really just lost some material goods. And what I still had was a massive opportunity in front of me. And what it really took was discovering kind of my own black box and discovering my own value that was not defined by a dollar amount. And that's where I came up with this title for this book, The Billionaire Within, is that I had to realize that within me was a billionaire
Zach : And the guy who realized that was a guy with no money.
Kenny : Was a guy with no, right. Yeah a guy who was flat broke again who had lost “everything” financially and.
Zach : Still had oxygen.
Kenny : Still had oxygen, yeah, but was living the day without some money. But, I had the support of family and had the support of my wife and I had the support of my children. Without that there would have been no need for oxygen, right? And with, you know, I have to take it to a spiritual realm too and..
Zach : Please do.
Kenny : Yeah, that was really my faith and my faith in Christ that I had to go back to that. And go man I am really just this—if you could visualize a guy standing in the middle of the room just naked— I know that's a scary picture for you, Zach. To think of me naked.
Zach : Yeah it gets the point across, yeah.
Kenny : Uhm, you are completely exposed and you got nothing to offer the world. At least that was the gray matter. That was the head trash and being able to get to a point where I would walk out on my father-in-law and mother-in-law's deck. this 200-foot deck that was built for my 50-foot yacht. That I no longer had.
Zach : Wow, I didn't know that.
Kenny : I lost it. Yeah lost that. Lost a big house. Lost a wet lease on the airplane and all this fancy stuff that people would identify as value was now valueless it was gone and you know having that reconcile within myself this idea of black box came along. Of going well let's dig down deep to figure out the whole story. To figure out, well what happened for that to take place? And how do we not let that happen again? And how do we learn from those experiences of the bad things that happen in life? and I'll give you this illustration. I'm a big fan of chocolate chip cookies.
Zach : Likewise.
Kenny : So, my wife Kathleen and my daughter Sarah arguably make the best chocolate chip cookies on the planet and one day maybe we'll have them on we'll give that recipe to the world.
Zach : I had some just this morning.
Kenny : Delicious right?
Zach : Yeah they're pretty good.
Kenny : Amazing! Otis Spunkmeyer, sorry you don't have anything on Sarah and Kathleen's chocolate chip cookies but one of the key ingredients to chocolate chip cookies most people would think “oh, chocolate chips” but it's actually salt. Salt alone excuse my french tastes like shit. I mean you know when you when you think of taking a teaspoon of salt and just throwing it in your mouth.
Zach : Yeah.
Kenny : Well I kind of get —
Zach : —Or drinking salt water. Inside throwing up or something.
Kenny : yeah right yeah um not, not a good ingredient by itself.
Zach : It’s gross.
Kenny : And salt for me is a little bit like failure. You got to have this ingredient standing along by itself in a vacuum isn't that great. But man, when you add salt to anything from your favorite steak to your favorite vegetable or even in those delicious chocolate chip cookies that little tart weird tasting ingredient when added to the rest of the symphony of ingredients inside a chocolate chip cookie.
Zach : There's a word.
Kenny : Yeah.
Zach : Symphony.
Kenny : For a music guy. I said that for you.
Zach : I received it.
Kenny : Now you have an amazing recipe. You have an amazing taste that carries on and gives you a memory like the memory of those chocolate chip cookies that Kat and Sarah make. Now just I'm gonna have to ask them to make some again tonight, because you probably ate what was left over in our house didn’t you?
Zach : Yeah. Yeah, I ate most of them. Now there's going to be like a longing from all the viewers of this podcast to taste these cookies. You know what?— They just can’t.
Kenny : Now in the future episodes we're going to have to have some chocolate chip cookies and maybe set some salt out on the table as a reminder that you got to have some failure.
Zach : And we can throw it over the shoulder.
Kenny : Yeah, so, you know in these interviews where we’ve talked with folks about their life and their life's journey. I think every person that we've interviewed thus far has had either on camera or off camera where we've been able to have a conversation about well, “tell me some of the the downside.” “Tell me some of the critical moments where you you had the ‘q’ word come up. ‘Quit.’” And you know, I think that's what we want to dig deep into. Finding out what what drives you, what makes you go beyond tapping out? You know for me that's where black box came from and you you probably wanted a 15 second answer and I've used about eight minutes telling you that. I don't want to give it all away because there's a story I want to share with that, one day, about the journey. That I went through and we'll put my book out there for people to read chapter one and chapter two kind of goes through, uh, the early journey. Where I had to get the head trash right. Where I had to get my mind right to have success again. Until my mind was ready for that success it didn't matter how much money you could make. It didn't matter what you could do with the money. The mind had to be right.
Zach : Yep.
Kenny : And you know, one of the things you you were prepared to ask me today—I’ll just go ahead and say it now for the sake of time. There's a book here on the table written by one of my mentors that I've never met personally but done tons of training with him, is Mr Jack Canfield. He wrote a book years ago, that's still popular today, and I would suggest every person take, uh, a month to read.
Zach : What's his name?
Kenny : Jack Canfield, The Success Principles. It's one of the best books for really preparing your mind for whatever journey you're going to partake on or enter into. Whether it be in business. Whether it be music or a military career. It's really getting your your mind ready for the journey that you're you're on. Whether it be a personal one or personal goal or maybe a group goal. It’s one of my my favorite all-time “business” books that I think, you know reaches beyond.
Zach : Yeah.
Kenny : A business and the other one here on the table is Think and Grow Rich. And I would say probably my next all-time favorite book next to the scripture itself, the Bible, I got to put the bible at the top of the list, obviously.
Zach : Yeah its best seller. The best seller.
Kenny : Best seller.
Zach : In history.
Kenny : And there's a lot we can glean from that at so many levels. That we'll have—one of the interesting people we'll have on a podcast in the future is our pastor from my church. A guy named Clayton Ritter. And I'll tell you, I'll name drop him now.
Zach : Oh yeah, that'll be awesome.
Kenny : We’ve teased in another forecast about having him on. Forecast, podcast, forecasting the podcast.
Zach : Yeah there you go.
*Boos*
Kenny : Uhm but you know Clayton was a a basketball star.
Zach : Yeah.
Kenny : In his own mind. Uhm, no, he actually got to play with the lakers.
Zach : On paper.
Kenny : On paper. For a few weeks and so we’ll get to hear that life's journey of how how did you go from a really talented basketball player to pastor? So, it’s more than just about the success of businessmen. It's the success of life's journey in understanding that sometimes there’s a little salt in the wound. Sometimes there are things that just don't go your way and how do you continue to fight through or have the intestinal fortitude? I know you love that phrase, to continue, and that's the people I want to talk to in my podcast.
Zach : Yeah. Yeah, There's actually there's a cool imagery. I know we only have a few minutes left so i'll be brief. But I thought of this when you were talking. That's why I started writing. I don't know if you were intentional with this, but the image of a black box when a plane goes down. It's what they look at to determine what the cause of the crash was that caused the mishap. They look at it for information about the plane, the instruments inside and it's almost like when you were on that dock at your in-laws you had crashed metaphorically in life and you found your own black box.
Kenny : Yeah.
Zach : And you found what was inside of you that was driving you and it's almost like we're wanting to dive into our guests and say what's in your black box.
Kenny : Yeah.
Zach : Let’s learn about you. What drives you—Lets learn about the instruments inside of you.
Kenny : So, see, I think you're spot on with that and you know that's a great segue to you now closing this out today. If you want to hear more about a person’s internal black box.
Zach : Yeah.
Kenny : Stay tuned and listen and watch episodes and please, if you enjoy this share it with your friends
Zach : Yeah.
Kenny : Subscribe I think is the thing you're supposed to do if you like a podcast, right?
Zach : Drop a comment, hit the like button, smash that subscribe button.
Kenny : What is it— smash the subscribe button.
Zach : Hit the blue button, make it green.
Kenny : So, that's why I have Zach here to help me with all these new generational things that I am so not up on. But you know one of those success principles is to surround yourself with people smarter than you. Who have capabilities that you do not have and cheerlead that. So this is a guy truly, those guys back there the rest of my team, who works in our financial firm from my daughter to my future daughter-in-law, the independent guys who work with me in the financial practice that we have. Which shout out to Kenneth Porter and Company, one of our sponsors.
Zach : Yeah, that's important.
Kenny : That's important thank you. Our future sponsor. This is believing as if—Blue Label.
Zach : We're speaking it in faith.
Kenny : Yeah, shout out to the nation's military and..
Zach : Is this backwards on camera?
Kenny : It probably is but it's okay. Blue Label, Johnny Walker, top shelf blue label. Miller House Coffee which is my son-in-law and daughter. They're acting on a dream that they have and they're acting as if. And the coffee really is good.
Zach : Yeah actually I've brewed it at home now. It’s my favorite coffee.
Kenny : They made a special blend for Kenneth Porter and Company called, Morning Call. And don't let your head trash get in the way of what morning call means.
Zach : Well it's much better than my original idea, the billionaire blend.
Kenny : The billionaire blend.
Zach : Yeah when they came up with the morning call I was like all right that's better than me.
Kenny : It’s a play off the stock market you know.
Zach : Yeah.
Kenny : The opening bell and that was one of the things that we were thinking about would have been good too opening bell, closing bell. Closing bell would have to be decaf though.
Zach : Yeah some like, what's like herbal tea.
Kenny : Yeah right. But morning call you know some of you potty brains out there think “oh it'll get you ready for your first morning constitution.”
Zach : Oh yeah.
Kenny : Yeah.
Zach : So literal potty brain.
Kenny : What is the delay on our pad here? I hit the button.
Zach : Yeah that would be midi. Which is a whole other conversation.
Kenny : That's a whole other podcast for all the music guys.
Zach : yeah.
Kenny : All right so we're going down a whole other rabbit trail. Don’t need to do that but stay tuned. This is our initial episode most of our episodes in true transparency are going to be about an hour long because we do want to get into the details of a person's black box.
Zach : It never feels long enough.
Kenny : It really doesn't and I feel for uh for Joe Rogan who can do three and four hour podcasts. I don’t know how he does it.
Zach : Yeah.
Kenny : I love listening to them.
Zach : Yeah it takes me like two weeks to get through them
Kenny : But that’s, hey, you know what it's cool though. Shout out to Joe maybe one day.
Zach : Yeah maybe he can be a guest on our show, if you’re lucky.
Kenny : That would be awesome. Spotify, get him on our show. Yeah, put our people together.
Zach : My people will talk to your people.
Kenny : Yeah there you go. “Zach call Joe.” See if he can help us out with that.
Zach : Hey Siri, call Joe Schmogan.
Kenny : All right so hey in all seriousness thanks for joining us today. We'll look forward to having you in future episodes, please, what is it Zach? Click the button. What are all the things?
Zach : I started talking to Siri and now the homepod in the room started talking.
Kenny : The homepod in our studio is talking.
Zach : Well if you enjoyed this episode make sure on whatever platform you’re listening on you subscribe slash follow us. That's going to be the best way to find updates about our show. We're going to be releasing weekly. That’s the plan.
Kenny : Yeah.
Kenny : Every Friday.
Zach : Yep. If you’re interested in sponsoring slash endorsing the show please reach out to our team at support@blackboxgrp.com and follow our social media pages. We're on instagram, facebook, and twitter. And we would love to connect with you.
Kenny : Awesome. Well done.
Zach : Thank you, sir.
Kenny : Thank you! All right we'll see you guys soon.